You are exactly right katie. he asked money from hmong families not for him (some what) but to fight for our country (if we consider it) and to fight you need weapons. and he did exactly just that, buy weapons. white house doesn't care about our people in laos, UN doesn't care about our people in laos that are dying everyday, so he did just to make them aware of it, he knows he will not have a chance to fight, but he can aleast do this so the world will see that our people are suffer because what the mesKas did to us 30 years ago.

here's another similiar article about general vang pao:



Vang Pao charged with Laos plot

(BangkokPost.com, Agencies)
Hmong General Vang Pao was arrested in California on Monday as the alleged mastermind of a violent plot to overthrow the Lao government with arms and equipment that were ready to be shipped to Thailand next week.

The indictments handed down in Sacramento culminated a six-month investigation that included meetings between undercover agents and the alleged conspirators to discuss transferring weapons to Thailand and Laos.

US prosecutors allege that Vang Pao was the mastermind behind the plot. Eight others were also arrested and charged; authorities believe there will be more arrests.

"We're looking at conspiracy to murder thousands and thousands of people at one time," Assistant US Attorney Bob Twiss said in federal court Monday.

All nine are charged with violating the federal Neutrality Act and face the possibility of life in prison.

"No matter how strongly held their beliefs, citizens of the United States cannot become involved in a plot to overthrow a sovereign government with which the United States is at peace," Drew Parenti, FBI special agent in charge of the Sacramento region said during a news conference following the defendants' initial court appearance.

The Associated Press says the case "reads like it was taken from the pages of a spy novel."

Since January, the Hmong leaders and Jack inspected shipments of military equipment that were to be purchased and shipped to Thailand. Shipments were scheduled for June 12 and 19, the complaint alleged. That equipment included hundreds of machine guns, ammunition, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, anti-tank rockets, Stinger shoulder-fired missiles, mines and C-4 explosives.

During a news conference after the defendants' court appearance, prosecutors displayed photographs of the weapons involved in the alleged plot. They showed a light anti-tank rocket system, a Stinger missile, Claymore mines and an AK-47 assault rifle.

The defendants also attempted to recruit a mercenary force that included former members of the Army Special Forces or Navy SEALs, prosecutors allege.

The planning was disrupted after a six-month investigation by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The criminal complaint said Vang Pao and the other Hmong defendants plotted an insurgent campaign to overthrow the Laotian government "by violent means, including murder, assaults on both military and civilian officials of Laos and destruction of buildings and property."

The defendants acted through the Lao liberation movement known as Neo Hom, led in the US by Vang Pao. It conducted extensive fundraising, directed surveillance operations and organized a force of insurgent troops within Laos, according to the complaint.

Also charged was former California National Guard Lt. Col. Harrison Ulrich Jack, a 1968 West Point graduate who was involved in covert operations during the Vietnam War. Jack acted as an arms broker and organizer of the plot, according to a criminal complaint filed in US District Court.

Vang Pao, now 77, led CIA-backed Hmong forces in Laos in the 1960s and 1970s as a general in the Royal Army of Laos. He immigrated to the US in 1975 and has been credited by thousands of Hmong refugees with helping them build new lives in the US.

Since then, however, he also has been plotting to overthrow the Laotian government, according to the federal complaint.

Seven others, all prominent members of the Hmong community from California's Central Valley, also were charged Monday in federal court. The criminal complaint identified them as:

- Lo Cha Thao of Clovis, a suburb of Fresno

- Lo Thao of Sacramento County, who is president of United Hmong International, which the complaint says also is known as the Supreme Council of the Hmong 18 Clans

- Youa True Vang of Fresno, founder of Fresno's Hmong International New Year

- Hue Vang, a former Clovis police officer

- Chong Yang Thao, a Fresno chiropractor

- Seng Vue of Fresno

- Chue Lo of Stockton, both of whom are clan representatives in United Hmong International

Here is the original article by Sacramento Bee. Please show your supports by adding comments to article.

http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/206120.html

Zaum nov ces cia seb lawv lub txim yuav mus zoo li cas lawm xwb os.

trying to save our people in laos is good but doing it the illegal way is wrong

Yuav ua tej haujlwm zoo li nov, yeej ua tau tabsis yuav tsum tiv toj riav phom nyob rau Thaib teb, suav teb, cov teb chaws thaj tsam nyob ntawm nplog ib sab los rau Russia mas kuv xav tias yeej yuav tsum tau xwb. Tabsis lawv ua yuav kev qhov nov lawm. Lawv muab ntseeg tus meskas ntawd dhau lawm xwb.

i guess they were aware of the consequences
huh gee, yog vim li cas lawv thiaj ua li no
Pab hlub cov moms and children who won't get to see their dads anymore

Its sooooooooooooooooo to hear the news. Thov Yawmsaub pab General Vaj pov thiab hmong cov Leaders txhua tus.

Hmoob... lub siab mas phem tshaj..... tab sis ho zoo dua ntias thiab tiag lawv es!!!.....

kev yuav ua teb ua chaw, sijhawm no tsis yog sijhawm ua os mog.. vim tias peb zoo li cov menyaum mos liab lawm xwb, tsuas paub noj, pw thiab quaj lawm xwb.. tos kuv hais li no los vim tias we have no power... thiab tsis sib koom siab..... yog li no peb yuav tsum tau nyoog luag txoj cai nyob luag teb chaws, luag thiaj li hlub peb, peb thiaj li nyob taus......

Haiv neeg meskas, ntse dhau lawm..... vim tias lawv lub hlwb khiav ceev heev..... lawv thiaj li yog haiv neeg ntxias noj, ntxias qhe.... lawv tshuav nuj nqis ntau heev, yuav them tsis tag rau peb haiv hmoob... vim peb haiv neeg tuag rau lawv, sijhawm tsov rog vaj pov nyob los tsuas teb coob heev li lawm, suav mas suav tsis txheeb li os lawv es...... tsim nyog lawv yuav tsum tau them, cov neeg tuag nqi taub hau, thiab tej qub tub rog vaj pov, uas sijhawm no nyob txom nyem heev.......

sim neej no muab xav txog lub kuamuag los los... tsis txawj tag kiag.....................

yog lawv tseem muab general vang pao kaw hauv jail lawm thiab ces ntshe tiam no meskas yuav npam mus txog hnub tuag thiab tag ib txhis, yuav tsis muaj hnub zoo li..

I understand he has helped many of the hmong from the war but i dont think he seek proper helps. hmoob cov nom tswv ces zoo li no xwb tos hmong tsis muaj teb chaws...teb chaws no yauv ua abtsi los yog ntaub ntawv xwb yog lawv tsis muaj legal documentation ces tej zaum yauv muaj teeb meem loj thiab. Lawv twb label hmong yog Terrorism lawm..tsis ntev no yog peb tsis txawj ua nws ces peb yuav raug xav rov qab mus nplog teb rau nyab laj tua lawm xwb....hmong lub neej thov hloov thiab!!!!!!!!1

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vim tib txoj kev hmong muaj nyob hauv hmoob lub hlwb xwb. lawv xav lawm tias lawv yog nom ces tsis tas yauv consult others li. peb yuav tsum muab tej kev no tso tseg...koom ua ib tug hais ib los lus..paub ib yam...ntau lub tswv yim zoo dua ib lub...

General Vang Pao is our father. He is the father for all hmong people who live in the USA and around the world.

Have you ever see any country without war? War tag ces mam li muaj Peace. Nej cov young generation no tsis paub qab hau dab tsi vim twb muaj tus muab txoj kev ywj pheej nqa los ua rau nej lawm nej mas lucky tiag tiag.

Tiam sis nej tsis muaj lub siab hlub zoo li peb txiv Vaj Pov. Nej tsis nco txog peb cov kwj tij neej tsa hmoob uas nyob tom qab uas tseem niaj hnub raug nplog liab raws tua yam tsis muaj chaw nkaum. Tsuas tshuav txij Vaj Pov lawm xwb uas thiaj li tseem hlub tau peb cov Hmoob.

Yuav yog thaum twg nej mam li muaj pluaj siab hlub peb hmoob li txiv Vaj Pov? Yog tag nws lawm ces peb cov hmoob yuav raug tua npog nroj ntsuav dua ib zaug ntxiv nyob rau nplog teb os lawv...

Cas nej yuav tsis nco hmoob cov paj lug hais tias nej tuaj npaum li nyuj plaub yuav tuaj kawm txuj kom nej muaj txuj es nej thiaj li rov npaum li nyuj kub nej kawm tau txuj lawm yuav rov mus pab peb hmoob kom muaj txoj kev thaj yeeb tsis tas yuav rov npaum nyuj plaub los yeej yuav pab tau peb hmoob no nas lawv... tiam sis ntshe nej txuj tseem tsis tau txaus kav tsij rau rau siab kawm txuj muaj ib hnub nej pom qhov txiv Vaj Pov pom nej thiaj li paub tias txiv Vaj Pov hlub hmoob npaum li cas...

Katie, why you are so stupid now? I just said are right earlier, but now you are so wrong. Stupid girl didn't know how to fight her enemy.

Koj ces tag li lawm os Katie, tsis muaj neeg nav koj lawm os. Qhov Vaj Pov thov sawv daws nyiaj no yeej yog coj mus yuav riam phom es thiaj ua tau li police es coj riam phom nrog luag mus txog twg los koj pom koj thiaj tsis ua phem ne tsis to taub lod?

Ruam tiag tiag. Tsim nyog koj nyob rau nplog tua hlais thiab muab Rape tib si es koj thiaj mam to taub txog qhov Vajpov lawv yuav riam phom os mog.Quote:

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What was wrong with that? It may be against the law here, yes. But this problem stems back to the Vietnam War, no doubt. In America's process to pull out of Vietnam to save face they dragged in the Hmong. And when America pull out, its allies in Southeast Asia was left to the hands of the Vietnamese. This was in a sense an inevitable event.

And to those who said that he should not have tried to save the families in the jungle illegally, how could he have saved them legally? In all his years here after the "Fall of the Country" what do you think he has been doing? He is a man trapped in time. And what makes him apart from "terrorists" is that he has forgiven those who has put him in that situation, the United States government.

He has tried on numerous accounts diplomatically and politically to save the families of the jungle. Of course those petitions turned out pending or some other sorts. I do not blame him, this is in fact probably a last resort because those legal talks of diplomacy and politics failed.

So to say it, I believe this is not a time to look down on our great figure head but to rally and support him. He has done more good than bad. He has gone through too much for us to abandon him in a time like this.

And to those that say that this event is none of their business they do not know how wrong they could be this very instant. First, those who are not Hmong are the only ones that has the right to claim that this event is none of their business. Those that are Hmong and go around spouting that this is none of their business should feel ashamed and obviously learned nothing from the Chai Vang incident.

Here in American culture we are torn by racial and ethnic divisions and are identified by them in society. American society is very closed minded. The quote, "One bad egg and the whole lot is bad," comes to mind. The Hmong have not even made their print onto the world and already we are getting bad recognition from American society because of few individuals. What do you think would happen to us now that our leader is charged of crimes? We would be the laughing stock of the American society, to put it in a nutshell.

Secondly, to those that are Hmong and still claim that this is none of their business, go kill yourself and save us the stupidity because there's already enough of it here in America. You or I would not be here if it were not for that man. The one man that has the right to claim that he himself has sacrificed the most for the Hmong people, General Vang Pao. It was the United States government that created the dire situation and it was General Vang Pao who saved and led the Hmong people out of the crisis. If he had not saved us you and I would be with the families of the jungle to this very day. Living and dying like rats in a hole. Excuse my language but like hell this is none of your business.

Always remember General Vang Pao in our heart....
But right now we have no power and right... then stop about war.... if you talk more then you will be in jail..
stay peace as we always do now.......