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Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6721313.stm

US prosecutors have charged nine people with plotting a coup in Laos, in a conspiracy to murder thousands.

The suspects were seized in dawn raids across California following a six-month covert investigation by US police.

Officials say the detained ringleaders include Gen Vang Pao, a prominent member of the ethnic Hmong group who emigrated to the US in the 1970s.

As a Laotian general, he led CIA-backed forces that fought communist guerrillas before they seized power in 1975.

The accused allegedly conspired to buy hundreds of machine-guns, rockets and explosives from US federal agents who were working undercover as arms dealers.

They are said to have sought to spend millions of dollars on weapons to carry out attacks.

Prosecutors said the coup leaders planned to blow up government buildings and kill "thousands of people".

The "Hmong insurgency planned to use AK-47 automatic rifles, Stinger missiles, LAW rockets, anti-tank rockets and other arms and munitions to topple [the] Lao government and reduce government buildings in Vientiane to rubble," a public prosecutor in California said in a statement.

Laos Foreign Ministry spokesman Yong Chanhthalansy said it was "great news" for Laos.

"We hope the United States will prosecute them strictly under the Patriot Act and punish the violators of the law severely," he told the Reuters news agency.

Mr Yong said he hoped the development would improve relations with neighbouring Thailand, whom Vientiane has suspected of turning a blind eye to Hmong militant activity within its borders.

"I am sure that such vigorous investigation will lead to the uprooting of the network of the villains who have caused the most difficulty in bilateral relations between the Lao and Thai governments," he said.

The defendants could face life in prison if found guilty.

A 10th person was arrested but has not been charged.

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how long have this being going on? undercover?

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Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6721313.stm

US prosecutors have charged nine people with plotting a coup in Laos, in a conspiracy to murder thousands.

The suspects were seized in dawn raids across California following a six-month covert investigation by US police.

Officials say the detained ringleaders include Gen Vang Pao, a prominent member of the ethnic Hmong group who emigrated to the US in the 1970s.

As a Laotian general, he led CIA-backed forces that fought communist guerrillas before they seized power in 1975.

The accused allegedly conspired to buy hundreds of machine-guns, rockets and explosives from US federal agents who were working undercover as arms dealers.

They are said to have sought to spend millions of dollars on weapons to carry out attacks.

Prosecutors said the coup leaders planned to blow up government buildings and kill "thousands of people".

The "Hmong insurgency planned to use AK-47 automatic rifles, Stinger missiles, LAW rockets, anti-tank rockets and other arms and munitions to topple [the] Lao government and reduce government buildings in Vientiane to rubble," a public prosecutor in California said in a statement.

Laos Foreign Ministry spokesman Yong Chanhthalansy said it was "great news" for Laos.

"We hope the United States will prosecute them strictly under the Patriot Act and punish the violators of the law severely," he told the Reuters news agency.

Mr Yong said he hoped the development would improve relations with neighbouring Thailand, whom Vientiane has suspected of turning a blind eye to Hmong militant activity within its borders.

"I am sure that such vigorous investigation will lead to the uprooting of the network of the villains who have caused the most difficulty in bilateral relations between the Lao and Thai governments," he said.

The defendants could face life in prison if found guilty.

A 10th person was arrested but has not been charged.

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That is good....they finally found the door to open for the future.

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wow. i had goosebumps after reading the article. i'm surprised and kindna sad

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Ua cas yuav mus ua tej thaj RUAM ua luaj li. Yuav yuav tej riam phom nov, cas yuav tsis mus yuav lwm lub teb chaws ze rau nplog teb es yuav mus tiv toj cov niag tawv dawb tim nov. Ruam tiag nawj.. Zoo li lawm ces ntshe Nplog yim muaj txoj cai los mus yuav muab peb cov Hmoob nkaum pem roob tua pov tseg tag li laud.

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Vuag! This is so embarassed.

Yog mas txawjua, hmoob cov old leaders no mas tseem ua tau tej thaj RUAM ua luaj. Xyov li os cas yuav mus ua tau txaj muag ua luaj dhau li os. Muab xav los mas cov hmoob tim ub yuav tsis txhob mus greedy thiab xav ntau es txias txim mus ua thai los sis mus ua nplog neeg ib yam li peb tim no peb twb ua USA citizen li no ces twb tsis muaj tej nyias kev zoo li no. Yog peb cov hmoob tim ub ua tau li no mam peb cov hmoob tim no thiaj li paub pab lawv kom mus tau zoo.

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They will be charged as terrorists and this will even give the Laotian government a greater opportunity to make excuses to slaughter those that don't believe in anarchy and communism. Those Hmong that are still continuing living inside the jungle will be easier for the Lao Government to hunt them down because now they can be categorized as terrorists.

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DAMN... how LAME IS THAT!!

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yeap.. so.. lame.

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nim no peb cov hmoob tsis to taub tias, amiska twb mus tuaj nyab laj liab tog lawm. thiaj mus thov nyab laj liab pab amikas tawm tsam elav.

peb sawv daws yuav tsum to taub tias, qhov peb cov hmoob tuag txhiv amekas tej tub rog tsis muaj hnub lawv them tag rov rau peb thiab lub ntuj lub teb. qhov yawg loj lawv ua li no txawm leej twg yuav liam tias, lawv phem los ntuj yeej paub tias, lawv tsis phem. lawv ua pab lawv tej neeg tuag txom nyem ntsuav, txoj kev txom nyem nyob ntuj qub qab, txoj kev uas raug luag khuj noj khuj haus ntawm lawv tej neeg xwb.

nom zoo lawv yeem muab lawv txoj sia los ua txhua yam pab lawv haiv neeg. hais los txog hmoob yeej tsis xav tua neeg, tab sis txhua haiv neeg phem yog cov pib thiab tsim kev sib ntaus sib tua, yuav tuag tuaj ces thiaj kom peb hmoob pab, thaum kawg ces lawv rov mus ua ib pab tawm tsam peb xwb. qhov no yog ib txog kev txhaum uas ntuj yuav tsis zam txim rau lawv li.

amekas ua kom nplog qhuas qhuas amekas, tab sis amekas rov taw tuam ntuj ntuj yeej yuav rau txim kom hnyav heev.

txhua tus hmoob yuav tsum los thov Vajtswv ntuj muab txoj kev ncaj ncees no rau hmoob nawb.

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Cap..not exactly.

There is a deep secret between the mesKAS and hmong, and this is just one step to open mesKas cov Eyes. Our people are dying everyday in the jungle just because of MesKas what they did 30 years ago and those people are living like hell. They kill our people because we have the heart of the American...is this a good reason why our people should die everyday just because we fought along side with the mesKas. General Vang Pao did something wonderful bringing us to the U.S.a, but he also left behind a monster in Laos that is killing our people since the day he left Laos. It's time for him to do something even if it worths NOthing at all.

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Vuag! This is so embarassed.

Yog mas txawjua, hmoob cov old leaders no mas tseem ua tau tej thaj RUAM ua luaj. Xyov li os cas yuav mus ua tau txaj muag ua luaj dhau li os. Muab xav los mas cov hmoob tim ub yuav tsis txhob mus greedy thiab xav ntau es txias txim mus ua thai los sis mus ua nplog neeg ib yam li peb tim no peb twb ua USA citizen li no ces twb tsis muaj tej nyias kev zoo li no. Yog peb cov hmoob tim ub ua tau li no mam peb cov hmoob tim no thiaj li paub pab lawv kom mus tau zoo.

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i was surprise when i heard that too... its like posted up on myspace too... i know that vang pao is just helping the hmong people in laos... i still think its crazy for the americans to arrest him and some other fellow hmong people...

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none of my business..i carelesss.....

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hehhe, tej ntawd yog txivneej lub zog xwb os.

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When I said, "RUAM", I mean that why did they not do a feasable study of the situation of arm dealing here before actually acting on it. 6 months of planning is not stratagically logistic. Feasable study should have been done on all opening options that are openning on the table.

Ua cas lawv yuav xav tsis txog tiag meskas twb tab tom tsis nyiam cov terrorists no. Cas tseem yuav mus nrog lawv sib tham thiab sib cog lus yuav riam phom. Cov neeg nov xav li cas lawm xwb?

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if this is true, please give us more information and when does this happen to them

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Ghost hais yog lawm os...es yuav li no xwb, hmoob yeej paub zoo mekas los yeej paub zoo tias, kev sib pab ntawm hmoob thiab mekas yog li cas tiag tiag. Ntuj nyob saud pom tag nrho li mog. Cap, txhob xav tias, ua luag neeg yuav dim no mog? Ncontsoov tias, nim no peb los yeej paub ntsoov tias, luag soj ntsoov sawv daws no os mog...Quote:

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Cap..not exactly.

There is a deep secret between the mesKAS and hmong, and this is just one step to open mesKas cov Eyes. Our people are dying everyday in the jungle just because of MesKas what they did 30 years ago and those people are living like hell. They kill our people because we have the heart of the American...is this a good reason why our people should die everyday just because we fought along side with the mesKas. General Vang Pao did something wonderful bringing us to the U.S.a, but he also left behind a monster in Laos that is killing our people since the day he left Laos. It's time for him to do something even if it worths NOthing at all.

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Vuag! This is so embarassed.

Yog mas txawjua, hmoob cov old leaders no mas tseem ua tau tej thaj RUAM ua luaj. Xyov li os cas yuav mus ua tau txaj muag ua luaj dhau li os. Muab xav los mas cov hmoob tim ub yuav tsis txhob mus greedy thiab xav ntau es txias txim mus ua thai los sis mus ua nplog neeg ib yam li peb tim no peb twb ua USA citizen li no ces twb tsis muaj tej nyias kev zoo li no. Yog peb cov hmoob tim ub ua tau li no mam peb cov hmoob tim no thiaj li paub pab lawv kom mus tau zoo.

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Yog li koj hais lawm mas...leej muam Katie. Hais tau zoo kawg...kuv pom zoo nrog koj os nawd...

Pab hlub lawv kawg li.

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i was surprise when i heard that too... its like posted up on myspace too... i know that vang pao is just helping the hmong people in laos... i still think its crazy for the americans to arrest him and some other fellow hmong people...

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Lawv ntse tsuas yog tias, lawv mus mag mekas qhov "PLOT" lawm xwb. Mekas yog cov neeg haub ntxias sawv daws txhua tus. Leej twg tsis xyuam xim luag yuav nrhiav txim nog rau ris tag nrho, tsis hais koj los kuv li nawb mog? Tsam no ces mekas zoo yam pab aub vwm es luag tuaj ua rau teb chaws no puas ntsoog raug nws neeg tuag mob nws siab, nws mus ua rog los tseem yuav swb quj qees thiab qhov twg los qhov tws kev lawm es thiaj lam tau lam ua neeg vwm liam txim rau tej neeg zoo. Qhia ncaj kiag tias, tsam no mekas twb tawg twb tsis ua pab pawg lawm, pej xeem tsis txhawb nom tswv li lawm thiab. Ua ntau mus ces kawglawv yuav rov sib xyuas lawv rau peb ntsia xwb.

Txawjua, koj yeej hais yog lawm thiab mas, neeg tsis saib tom ntej tom qab mam ua ces yeej kawg yuav nyuaj xwb mog? Tsam no mekas lub qe phem nrov thoob ntiaj teb ces lawv tig rov los rhuav lawv haiv neeg zoo zoo li peb no rau teb chaws saib kom luag qhuas qhuas lawv. Lub sij hawm no yog lub sij hawm mekas tab tom vwm loj loj li es leej twg tseem txav ze thiab ces yuav mag aub vwm tej toj taug vwm li nawd...hehehehehe.Quote:

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When I said, "RUAM", I mean that why did they not do a feasable study of the situation of arm dealing here before actually acting on it. 6 months of planning is not stratagically logistic. Feasable study should have been done on all opening options that are openning on the table.

Ua cas lawv yuav xav tsis txog tiag meskas twb tab tom tsis nyiam cov terrorists no. Cas tseem yuav mus nrog lawv sib tham thiab sib cog lus yuav riam phom. Cov neeg nov xav li cas lawm xwb?

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i think he deserve what he did, now that i think of it... c'mon he ask every hmong family to give money so he could all hmong people what they want but with all the money everyone gave him, he bought weapons with all of it... its stupid...

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